Romans 6:6-7 continued ( posted 10-29-13 )

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

 

Let's continue.

 

As I mentioned in my last study, Paul said that God calls things that are not as though they are.

“  (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. “  Romans 4:17

 

To get the point in all this we must continue to read the next verse;

Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.   Romans 4:18

 

While Paul said that God made Abraham a father of many nations;

I have made thee a father of many nations,...“

and even though Abraham was not literally a father as of yet, God declared it to be as though it is...even though it is still not as of yet.

...and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

 

The writer of Hebrews confirms this by saying;

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

For by it the elders obtained a good report.

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. “    Hebrews 11:1-4

 

The key to understanding faith is to understand that according to Paul and the writer of Hebrews, faith is the evidence of what is yet to come as being in the presently in the here and now.

...the evidence of things not seen.

This amazes me but interestingly enough even as far back as Adam and Eve's son Abel, even Abel knew about the perfection and righteousness that was to come from Jesus.

By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

Moses said that even though Abel was spiritually dead as we are;

and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

because of his faith, he was already made righteous...even that far back in history, thousands of years before Jesus came to earth and died. Abel even knew this before Abraham did.

The description of faith written by the writer of Hebrews;

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. “

goes along with what Jesus Himself said;

Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receivethem,and ye shall havethem.   Mark 11:24

 

However, we must still acknowledge the part of Paul's statement;

and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

 

It still remains that there is a moment that things are not...even though God looks at it as though it is;

and calleth those things which be not...”

 

as though they were.

 

 

The literal aspect of what is believed and hoped for only exists as long as we continue to believe for it.

This is why Paul also said about Abraham even after God called him a father of many nations, even though it had not happened yet tangibly;

And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sara's womb:

He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. “   Romans 4:19-21

 

Case in point.

 

We are only dead to sin, crucified with Christ, freed from sin, declared perfect and righteous in Christ, forgiven, cleansed from sin, justified, sanctified, joint heirs with Christ, and friends to Jesus as long as we are continuously abiding in “ the faith “, keeping our faith in “ the faith , walking in the light as Jesus is in the light and maintaining a repentant heart and confess our present sins to the Lord;

 

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. “      1 John 1:7-10

 

While we as born again christians do sin - having an unforgiving heart, hating someone, gossiping about people behind their back, lusting for things, cheating on our taxes, being critical of others, being arrogant and proud, lying, etc... it is God's grace and trusting in Him to forgive us upon acknowledgment and repentance of our sin that God will but if we think we can live in sin as a lifestyle without acknowledgment and repentance of our ongoing sins and still think we can receive God's grace and mercy, then we are as bad off as someone going to Vegas hoping to win the jackpot.

 

I will continue with verse 8 in the next study.

 

Wayne Brown

Romans 6:6-7 continued ( posted 10-15-13 )

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

 

 

Let's continue.

 

As I said in my last study, I want to continue discussing these verses.

 

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

 

The Greek word “ anthropos “ translated “ man “ means a human being. In other words, it is an existing creation – that is, a person.

 

The Greek word “ soma “ translated “ body “ is used in a variety of ways both literally and figuratively.

 

There is not only a death after we come to believe in Jesus – our old person being crucified with Jesus... there was also a death when we were physically born.

We were dead in sin.

This death was the result of Adam and Eve's disobedience.

Paul talked about this other death that came to all humanity;

 

And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Ephesians 2:1

 

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)   Ephesians 2:5

 

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;    Colossians 2:13

 

But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. “   1 Timothy 5:6

 

This is interesting.

When we were physically born we were dead...because of sin. We ( our old person ) were eternally separated from God.

When we come to believe in Jesus we are brought to life in Jesus.

Now, upon our faith in Jesus, we are brought to death again but in a different way.

Our old person that was dead in sin at physical birth and then brought to life upon faith in Jesus is now crucified with Christ...according to the verses of our study.

If our old person remained dead it would not be necessary to crucify it.

Now, whether our “ new creation “ took place at the moment our old person was brought to life or after the crucifixion of our old person is not certain but nevertheless we became a new creation, after placing our faith in Jesus.

Paul said;

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.  “    2 Corinthians 5:17

 

There are evangelicals that reject the concept of both the old person and the new person existing simultaneously after the old person was crucified.

However, Paul seems to reference his present condition to wrestling with the nature of the old person...even though it was crucified with Christ.

  For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.   Romans 7:14-25

 

The Greek word “ eimi “ translated “ am “ in verse 14 is clearly in the present tense.

Paul was not referring to a past life in any of these verses.

 

If you remember in my earlier study we learned that God calls things that are not as though they are.

Paul said;

(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. “   Romans 4:17

 

I will continue with this discussion in the next study.

 

 

Wayne Brown

Romans 6:6-7 ( posted 10-1-13 )

  Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

 

Let's continue.

 

 

  Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

 

The Greek word “dedikaiotai “ translated “ is freed “ means to render innocent, justified, free.

 

What was crucified when we put our faith in Jesus is our old nature of sin – that is, the inherited nature of willingness to be a slave to sin and the love, lust and desire to commit sin and to disobey God, which was the inherited result of the disobedience of Adam and Eve. Not only were we formerly slaves to sin we were loving and enjoying it.

It was not until the Holy Spirit convicted us of our enjoyment in disobeying God that we realized what we were doing and started to feel guilt and shame. We repented of our sin and asked God to forgive us.

When this moment came in a sense we were crucified with Jesus Christ and became literally justified.

As far as the eternal consequences of God's wrath in hell we were declared too holy for hell, based on the holiness and righteousness of His Son Jesus Christ our Savior.

Praise the Lord! We are now no longer subject to God's wrath.

Now we are an adopted spiritual son and daughter of God our Creator through God's Holy Spirit because of our faith in God's Son Jesus.

And not only this, we are righteous enough now to enter Heaven being clothed in the righteousness of God's Son Jesus.

This is what gets us to Heaven...Jesus' righteousness.

We cannot earn Heaven.

 

Therefore, again, what has been crucified is the old nature of love, lust and willingness to sin and the love, lust and willingness to be a slave to sin.

Now, we are a different kind of slave.

We are now slaves to righteousness – that is, if we continue wanting to please God, abstaining from sin and resisting satan.

 

I have an incredible amount of verses to show you and things to say about this.

 

I will continue with verses 6-7 in my next study.

 

Wayne Brown

Romans 6:5 ( posted 9-17-13 )

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

 

Let's continue.

 

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death,”

 

The Greek word “ sumphutoi “ translated “ planted together “ means grown along with, closely united to, planted together.

As part of the work of the Holy Spirit in our adoption and salvation process upon our faith in Jesus, our flesh has been crucified and destroyed in a similar way that Jesus died.

It is interesting that upon this part of the process of our salvation, all of us who put our faith in Jesus have a common ground – that being our flesh has been destroyed in similar fashion to Jesus' crucifixion and death.

However, our faith and what we believe is still being worked on.

This is why even though Paul just told us that we are closely united in Jesus' death, we are not presently united in faith and what we believe.

In Paul's day and especially in today's evangelical society, with the many different beliefs within the body of Christ that presently exist, this is why Paul said in the future all who believe in Jesus will be brought into unity concerning our faith and what we believe, just as we are presently united as far as the destruction of our flesh.

Paul clearly said;

Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:    Ephesians 4:13

Notice even our perfection is future, according to this statement of Paul.

 

 

we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

 

The Greek word “ esometha “ translated “ we shall be “ grammatically is in the future tense and means shall come to pass, will be, what would follow, may have.

 

Always remember what John said about our future, when Jesus returns;

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.    1 John 3:2

 

Like Paul, John is referring to the future, not the present – that is, concerning our faith, beliefs and resurrection.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. “    Romans 8:29

Notice Paul did not say we are predestined to be saved but rather those whom God knows – that is, those of us who believe in His Son Jesus, are predestined to be conformed to the image of God's SonJesus. As Paul and John said, this is to be done in the future when Jesus returns.

 

I have heard people ask - “ If Lucifer was perfect and turned against God, what is to keep it from happening again in Heaven even though we will be perfect? “

My friend, the difference between Lucifer is that those of us who believe in Jesus to the end when He returns will literally become like Jesus in every way.

Just as Jesus, the Holy Spirit and God the Father cannot go against each other nor would ever have the desire to, those of us who believe in Jesus will be conformed to the same feeling, mentality and desire as God...literally.

This is what being conformed is. It is literally becoming as, like.

Notice that God did not plan this nor even a redemption plan for the fall of Lucifer and his angels who rebelled with him.

I'm sure this is why he hates God so much and why he is trying to keep us out of Heaven.

The Greek word “ summorphous “ translated “ conformed to “ means jointly formed, fashioned like unto, similar...same as “ likeness “.

Obviously, Lucifer was not ever conformed to God.

The difference between Adam and Eve who were actually originally made in the similitude, likeness and even image of God as opposed to Lucifer who was not, is that Adam and Eve, even though they committed the sin of disobedience, did not openly rebel against God as Lucifer and his angels did. Adam and Eve no doubt repented and acknowledged the sin they committed. I believe they are in Heaven like Abraham, having believed in Jesus.

Lucifer is like the other criminal on the cross who hanged there with Jesus and the other criminal (who did repent, by the way ), who openly publicly defied Jesus even in his dying moments. This is in the likeness of satan.

 

The criminal who did repent and believe in Jesus like Adam and Eve and the rest of us who do, will some day in the future literally be like God.

There will be no satan to tempt and deceive.

The difference between the future event of being conformed to the image of God's Son will be more complex than the creation of Adam and Eve in the image and likeness of God.

Our future conformation, for those of us who believe in Jesus, will be in the literal sense of being like God in feelings, desire and thought.

It will be irreversible and irrevocable.

There will be no curiosity toward things outside of God as there was with Adam and Eve.

We will know God and be as He is.

Our desire will be toward God and each other, just as it is God the Father's, the Holy Spirit's, and Jesus' desire toward each other and us.

My friend, this is what eternal life is...knowing God.

 

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. “      John 17:3

 

It amazes me that God would do all this for a human being.

 

Praise the Lord Jesus!

 

I will continue with verse 6 in the next study.

 

Wayne Brown

Romans 6:4 ( posted 9-3-13 )

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

 

Let's continue.

 

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: “

 

As I said in my last study, Paul is not referring to water baptism. This is a baptism done by the Holy Spirit. While a born again believer in Jesus Christ should follow Jesus in physical water baptism as a public declaration of our faith in Jesus since He also was baptized physically, we need to remember that water baptism does not save us.

Paul clearly said we are saved by grace through faith;

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.   Ephesians 2:8-9

 

And yes my friend, Paul did say explicitly;

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

 

I know people personally who boast, gloat and revel in high exultation when they tell me they have done the work of being baptized in water and have the certified document to prove it. Unfortunately, most the population of religious human beings on this planet think their baptismal certified document is what will get them to Heaven...not to mention most people think they are not such a bad person after all and that too will get them into Heaven.

If water baptism was necessary to be saved, then Jesus lied to the criminal who was hanging on a cross, close to death and absolutely had no chance to be baptized in water.

Contrary to religious myth, Jesus saved the criminal in response to his faith and promised the criminal he would be with Him that same day after physical death.

And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.

But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. Luke 23:39-43

 

The criminal repented and put his faith in Jesus, which is all that is required to be saved.

The Eunuch that Philip led to Jesus believed and was saved before Philip baptized him in water.

Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. Acts 8:35-39

 

Notice it was the Eunuch that requested to be baptized. Philip did not require him to be baptized because Philip knew the Eunuch was already saved by grace through his faith.

 

 

 

 

that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. “

 

The Greek word “ peripatesomen “ translated “ should walk “ grammatically means might walk, to tread all around, follow, walk at large, be occupied with, to deport oneself ( which according to Webster means - “ to behave or conduct oneself in a specified way " ).

This is not a forced manufactured condition but rather a suggested hope that one who comes to believe in Jesus and is made a new creation will choose to walk uprightly, repent of our former sinful lifestyle and walk in the Light as Jesus is in the Light.

Even being born again, we still have the choice whether to live as we did before we repented or forsake that old lifestyle and live like Jesus.

The Greek word “ kainoteti “ translated “ newness “ means renewal and just as it is translated, newness.

It is a new person, creation, that we have the choice to put on and live in... or not.

Paul said;

 

And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. “   Ephesians 4:21

 

And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: “   Colossians 3:10

Both natures exist – that is, the old man and the new.

 

Paul said;

 

That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; “  Ephesians 4:22

Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; “   Colossians 3:9

 

We can choose which lifestyle to live in.

Remember Demas who forsook Paul and left him, having went back into the world.

For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia. “ 2 Timothy 4:10

While we quote repeatedly Jesus will never forsake us nor leave us, we still have the choice to leave Him.

If we think we can live in sin and remain in the faith, this is like gambling in Vegas...we can lose our shirt, not to mention our soul.

And yes my friend, we were saved to begin with.

They on the rockare they,which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.      Luke 8:13

I will continue with verse 5 in the next study and we will learn that in the future we will be resurrected and literally be like Jesus.

This is amazing.

The Lord bless you.

 

Wayne Brown

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